[BLAKE BAXTER PERFORMING]

BLAKE BAXTER: There's a lot of competition out there. There's a lot of new cats and there's a lot of people stepping over people and not respecting and a lot of new cats don't even know the history, and I think if you don't know the history, it's really hard to produce and make good music, but somehow it's working but I mean in my opinion, I'm really tired of all the bleep music [BLAKE BAXTER IMITATING "BLEEP" MUSIC]. I'm really tired of it. Come on man. What happened to the bass? Yo! What happened?

BILL HOLLAND: Yeah, man. It's all high end now.

BLAKE BAXTER: Yeah!

BILL HOLLAND: It's all like high in the mix.

BLAKE BAXTER: You know, and that's because of the software. You know, for these new cats, go into the software, venture outside of what's there, venture in here a little bit, find yourself, be artistic with it, you know. That's what underground is all about. Underground is a pure artistic gesture. You don't do it for attention. You don't do it for money. You do it to be heard and to move people. That's what it's all about. I mean that's how I started and I know for a fact that's how Detroit started, you know. I mean it is glamorous, you get to travel and everything, but you know I hate to see DJs complain and this and that and a lot of them, you know, you just use a software. You producing? Just be a little more creative, but to be honest I'm tired of all the [BLAKE BAXTER IMITATING "BLEEP" MUSIC], you know, and lot of times it makes me mad because I say I know I heard that before, and it's just the filter down something. But that's cool too. It's good to use House loops and loops from the past but, you know, make it your own. Like for instance I did a thing, I like the record "Break for Love" because I always do the soft-spoken stuff; I just kind of twisted it around and did "Blake for Love", you know, but that's totally out of respect to the classics, you know.

BILL HOLLAND: Well then you would say that sometimes it's better to work within limits and then see how far you can go with that. I mean that was the advantage of the 303 was that it was always you know you're very limited but then you can use your mind to really push it past that.

BLAKE BAXTER: Right. That's true you know. And then I got into an argument with a friend of mine -- You know who you are -- about 303 software versus a real 303. And then, we got into a thing about who had the hardest kick. I said, "Can anything [EXPLETIVE] with an 808 kick?" He made me so mad that I flew from New York back to Detroit. The first thing I did, I went to get my 808, went over to his house and knocked at his door and I said, "Let's go," and after that he was a believer, so.

BILL HOLLAND: That's fantastic, man. This has been a great interview. I appreciate. Thanks for joining us, Blake.

BLAKE BAXTER: Thank you for having me.