BILL HOLLAND: Plus when you're stuck with -- I mean you got 30 records and you've got to sit there and be like, "Okay, how do I move the crowd with what I have?" That's always more of a challenge somewhat, but it's good to have that backup too right?

DJ SURGEON: It's good to have -- That is -- That's the real art of DJing: crowd reading. You got to read the crowd, you got to know what records are rocking at the right time especially if you're doing a multi-genre crowd. You have to really know what you're doing there, and it's all about having the Jedi knowledge of the music. It really is. If you don't know -- if I'm going to be at a skating party and I don't know -- well I should play you "Flashlight" right about now, Parliament Funkadelic, and really take them there. Hey, you got to know those things. If you're in the UK and there's a popular DJ that's local and that has a big record, I can load that up in Serato instantaneously and entertain that night, and that's what the big advantage is, also the remix advantage.

BILL HOLLAND: Plus I mean it's good to have vinyl too because you have a backup of all those tracks. I mean I know guys who they're like, "Yeah, I have a million MP3s but then their hard drive dies and they have no backup.

DJ SURGEON: The come calling the DJ network, calling us and, "You got a -- what is it? A DJ that can't scratch? You got to fix it in the mix pretty [SOUNDS LIKE] Tony," and I'm like, "Yeah." And then we got it, you know, what what what? You need some money! [LAUGHING] No I'm just saying that it's always good to have your vinyl vault. Never give up your vinyl vault. Support vinyl records. It's the nature, the true nature of the business and what we do. Turntablism, it's founded on vinyl records. It's an essential part of hip hop. That's why you got a lot of the music you hear they sound so the same and sterile. There's no real scratching, no real stuff going on. It's just a guy talking over 16 bars, three different times with a hook, and that's the mentality, but real stuff, entertainment, is the DJ and the two or three MCs and that's what it is, man, and the height, man. That's what it is, you know. That's hip hop, you know, and going into electronic music, it was two turntables and a mixer. That's what it was. And when you see a real tablist go on, that's what it's going to be whether it's via Serato, using it as a file refuge, or he's entertaining or remixing. I know a lot of guys now using Serato remixing very big records right in front of your very eyes. It's amazing because if you really utilize a program to its fullest potential, it's pretty much limitless with what you can do with remixing and moving that crowd.

BILL HOLLAND: Well that is the point of technology too. You bring in new technology and then you go, "Okay. Well, I need to be take this and do something with it that I couldn't do with the old stuff," because otherwise you might as well stick to the old. And it seems like the people who are really doing well with the laptops and the computer technology like Serato, the ones who are taking it and doing insane things that you could never do with vinyl, and I mean when you say that’s probably right?

DJ SURGEON: That is totally absolutely correct.

BILL HOLLAND: All right. Well, fantastic. DJ Surgeon -- Sorry, Detroit's own DJ Surgeon.

DJ SURGEON: We've been getting that right with everybody because as everyone knows I'm with Crate Savers Music now. I'm on my second vinyl EP release with them, soon to be three, and another six weeks here, it's one of the Killer Series, and we just want everybody to know these records are coming from Detroit, and they're coming from me. There's no one else doing these. It's Detroit's own. We don't want people getting confused with anything else, so we have coined Detroit's own DJ Surgeon, and that's what it'll be in the new album is "Flatline", so you know check it out, but hey Crate Savers Music. CrateSavers.Com.

BILL HOLLAND: CrateSavers.Com. Great. Well thanks for coming out everybody. Thanks for being with us today.

DJ SURGEON: You're quite welcome.

BILL HOLLAND: We really appreciate it. All right, we're here at Movement 2007, and we'll be back with more from the festival on Gearwire.Com.