BILL HOLLAND: So we're back again with Kord from DrumCore. I'm going to ask you a few quick questions about this. I'm obviously working with Ableton as my shirt indicates. I'm repping a little bit here way more than I should probably.

KORD TAYLOR: I've been using it because it's cool to do a bunch of beats in it.

BILL HOLLAND: Well, that's the thing.

KORD TAYLOR: MIDI and audio, you know.

BILL HOLLAND: It's the best live program for using loops and/or at least in my subjective opinion but given that, tell me a little bit the difference between this and other major competitors. I think we had talked about one earlier. We're comparing the difference between the sort of lag on the CPU between that one and how this one, the yellow bar on Ableton was barely up ther at all.

KORD TAYLOR: Yeah. Well one thing that we do is we try and -- like I mentioned before, we try and bake the set elements of the kit into the sample.

BILL HOLLAND: Right.

KORD TAYLOR: And you certainly can add as many plugins as you want and do all that good stuff, but we really think with if someone pulls up a rock kit, particularly if it's a drummer that's known for rock and his whole kit is tooled around that beat that his playing because when they select they're drums, they're selecting them based on the style usually.

BILL HOLLAND: Yeah.

KORD TAYLOR: Right. If you listen to Lonnie Wilson's country drums with brush, it's a different kit than Sorum's rocking thing or even Tempesta for Metal, so we try and bake those sounds into the kits themselves so that you don' have to fuss with that. You know, you can certainly take it to another level and of course like you can mix and match stuff like I said, I like doing freaky stuff like taking an electronic kit, you know, put the electronic kick on it, put like the brush snare on it, and then, you know, electronic hi-hats and some jazz ride cymbals. I like doing strange stuff like that, but at least from KitCore and DrumCore you can do that really easily.

BILL HOLLAND: And you can map -- so you can map the different sounds to the same MIDI key. If I want to map to say C3, I can map multiple instruments at one key.

KORD TAYLOR: You can't do it within the programs themselves.

BILL HOLLAND: Okay.

KORD TAYLOR: They're all GM mappings so pretty much any controller in the worldm, you can just go GM mode and it works, and also the drum pattern editors and stuff like Cubase and Logic and all these programs that have a dedicated drum editor, it works well with DrumCore because we do the GM settings and when you see the main bass drum, it really is a bass drum.

BILL HOLLAND: Now how does that work with say the Ableton drum pads or does it really not?

KORD TAYLOR: Well, with Ableton it's like anything can be assigned any kind of MIDI command thing. I haven't really been using their pad thing as much but certainly somebody from Ableton was, because we export stuff as REX files, they use that cool thing where you can just throw in a REX file.

BILL HOLLAND: Yup.

KORD TAYLOR: And because we do drag and drop right into Ableton, he was just -- [PH] Barry goes, "Yeah, this is a real cool sounding beat. Have you seen this?" You know, this guy Huston from --

BILL HOLLAND: Yeah. I know Huston. Yeah.

KORD TAYLOR: So Huston is like a ninja with Live so he's like, "Oh yeah, you got to check out the new features and stuff and then so he goes, "Yeah, this is a cool beat," so he pulls it over, he does the auto-chop of all the REX slices, and he starts you know [OVERLAPPING]...

BILL HOLLAND: Well, it was a [INDISCERNIBLE] drum pad.

KORD TAYLOR: [OVERLAPPING] and glitching it out. Yeah, so it worked with that -- with the drum pad from the REX side of life. I haven't really tried it with the MIDI stuff but, you know, again since we're -- since Live seems so MIDI-centric, I have done things where I like used different controllers to play slices and stuff that I just drag in to slots inside Live.

BILL HOLLAND: Okay. And now you said for effects you can send -- How do you do a send say from like a kick drum or a snare? How do you go about doing that with KitCore or DrumCore?

KORD TAYLOR: You just click on the pad.

BILL HOLLAND:

KORD TAYLOR: And down below that, there's like use separate outs, the check box. If it's selected, you'll see in some of the videos and some of the demo we do how you can just click on the pad then choose which output that pad has...,

BILL HOLLAND: Okay.

KORD TAYLOR: ...and we have all stereo samples so you get a nice stereo image out of everything as well, and so that we usually send the stereo outputs but you can also use mono outputs into the host as well.