KORD TAYLOR: You can do the separate outs, but then if you re-select stereo outs, it's not like it blows away all your settings. Now, everything is still is going to just the stereo output and you can kind of get your head back around okay, so yeah. So somewhere, I've got a fader muted on my hi-hat because coming through the main stereo outs, I'm here in the hi-hat again so that's my fault.

BILL HOLLAND: Right.

KORD TAYLOR: Not that any of us do these kinds of things where we forget what we're up to when we've got all these channels and all these tracks, but that is a nice thing, and then you say, "Okay, well I can go unmute that and then select separate outs again, and then you've got all your mapping set up just like they were before.

BILL HOLLAND: Okay. And you're saying this is really marketed towards originally someone who needed to be able to do something quickly, so if I hjust want to whip out, you know, if I normally do electronic music say but I get hired to do a jazz track or a reggae trap...,

KORD TAYLOR: Right

BILL HOLLAND: ...it's set up so I can pretty much do that as quickly as possible.

KORD TAYLOR: Yeah because you've got both the drum kit sounds MIDI. You've got the audio loop, which in some cases sounds more authentic because you know let's face it. Sometimes you get to things like brushes and cymbals and stuff, and the feel is just [OVERLAPPING].

BILL HOLLAND: Well, if you're not a drummer too. That's the other thing. I mean if you're used to using an MPC or a drum pad...

KORD TAYLOR: Right.

BILL HOLLAND: ...and less organic beats, more electronic beats, or even if you're doing IDM and glitch, you're still -- it's still good to have that option, to add that organic element to it because sometimes --

KORD TAYLOR: Oh absolutely.

BILL HOLLAND: Especially because sometimes the person hiring you is saying, "We need this to sound more organic", I mean the sound more like real drums.

KORD TAYLOR: Totally. I mean that's why in some of the demos you'll see in this thing, I layer up the MIDI with the audio loop because you can do that with DrumCore and there's really. I can't think of any other product that does it in the same way.

BILL HOLLAND: Well, with KitCore, you still have the MIDI files that are programmed by people...

KORD TAYLOR: Oh right, aright.

BILL HOLLAND: The different genres that you've brought in, and that's something that also of other drum programs don' offer, especially the drag and drop option

KORD TAYLOR: Absolutely.

BILL HOLLAND: Okay.

KORD TAYLOR: You're right about that, and the other thing is that the drum beats that you choose they, again, aren't just kind of generic beats. There, the idea is that these guys really know their genre and so when you grab that, you know, there's no guess work that's like, "What kind of guy?" You know, "Was he a funk guy programming a country beat?" You know, I don't know. You know, the thing is some of these places you don't know really where MIDI files and the beats come from so yeah it's [OVERLAPPING].

BILL HOLLAND: So now -- I guess this is just one more question about this, but what would you say is the one? If you were to pick one defining feature that separates KitCore and DrumCore from something like Battery, what would that be?

KORD TAYLOR: Uh, I think the first thing is content, you know, because again these, you know, I sound like a broken record like they say but you know these guys really know what they do as drummers. That's why they're -- I mean it's fine because I think of the price of our product, and you couldn’t get an hour of these guys as time.

BILL HOLLAND: Right

KORD TAYLOR: And here you've got like the equivalent of playing like what 10 different songs, sometimes...

BILL HOLLAND: With variations and fills and all that.

KORD TAYLOR: ...with variations, different tempos, and all that stuff.

BILL HOLLAND: Okay. Great. Now how much space do people need to install this on their computer?

KORD TAYLOR: Well basic DrumCore, you're looking at you know probably around 6-1/2 GB, something like that.

BILL HOLLAND: That's not bad though.

KORD TAYLOR: It's two DVDs. KitCore is like about 2 GB or something like that and let's see. I actually haven’t -- Look, this is a...

BILL HOLLAND: And then --

KORD TAYLOR: You're the first place people have seen KitCore 2, right?

BILL HOLLAND: Oh well --

KORD TAYLOR: So you're also going to be the first place that I've looked at my DrumCore...

BILL HOLLAND: We get the preview here.

KORD TAYLOR: ...data folder and seen how big it is after I add most of that on expansion packs, so do try this at home.

BILL HOLLAND: Now of course, as you will see in the other videos, DrumCore is both MIDI and audio based whereas KitCore is just the MIDI capability with all of the MIDI drum samples. However, there are a lot of preprogrammed loops in there. They are programmed by the people who the drummers that these samples were taken from. So the only thing that you don't get are the REX files, which come with DrumCore.

KORD TAYLOR: Right. So the -- If you add on a bunch of the -- most of the add-on packs, my folder's looking at 36 GB.

BILL HOLLAND: Thirty-six GB; that's with all of the add-ons, right? And so that's assuming you're using --

KORD TAYLOR: That's what all the add-ons. That's when you just like go nutsy.

BILL HOLLAND: That's like everything. That's you know, and like you said, there are loops programmed in 7/8 time. I mean not everyone's going to be doing that. If you're an electronic musician you might not be doing that.

KORD TAYLOR: And you brought up a really good point because we came out with this free player that you can download from our web site that's like a lite version of DrumCore. You can't use it to catalog your own WAV files. You also can't use it to create your own kits from scratch but it'll play anything that's in a drummer pack that we make.

BILL HOLLAND: Oh really?

KORD TAYLOR: Just the way DrumCore does, so you'll be able to sort through the styles, sort through the drummers, use the MIDI synthesizer to play MIDI beats, have the audio loops, all that good stuff. It's a free download, and that's for those people who are really very generic, very specific about the kind of stuff they want like all they care about is reggae so they can just buy the slide pack. If all they care about is metal, they can just buy Tempesta packs, and then just use DrumCore for that thing, you know.

BILL HOLLAND: Well, it's nice that it's geared that way.

KORD TAYLOR: It brings the price way down. I mean like an Urban GT, which is a lot of those like electronic sounds and hip hop beats, right? They're looking at 50 bucks, so for 50 bucks you get that, you download the player, and you've got tons of fun.

BILL HOLLAND: [LAUGHS] All right. Well thank you again for joining me, Kord.

KORD TAYLOR: Oh. Thank you. Sure.

BILL HOLLAND: And this has been DrumCore and KitCore on Gearwire.Com.

KORD TAYLOR: Yeah. Tune in.