BILL WEBB: I do know this and I can tell you this. I did this experiment here that was a happy kind of funny little thing. I built a -- I took a Fender reverb unit, and I took the guts out and I built basically a Fender preamp, pretty much like what you would get in a Blackface Super, you know, with reverb, and so it had volume, treble, middle, bass, and a reverb knob.

and there was a guy that was trying to set up a reverb -- I mean an acoustic rig, and he was looking for like a good tube preamp, and he was around the corner at another store and I was watching him work with his system that had JBL monitors and he had a little Martin and they had Baggs pickup in it, and he had a rack full of stuff and always kind of going back and forth between different sounds and stuff, and, you know, he was -- I was talking to him about it and he said, "Hey, why don't you go get that thing and let me try it." I said, "I don't think it's going to work, you know. Let's see what happens."

Well, he brought it in and he plugged it in, and I had made the thing, voiced it particularly for a steel guitar so you definitely want it clean. You want lots of headroom and cleanness. Well, he plugged it into the scene, and I was amazed that it sounded pretty good, and it's basically the Fender circuit with a few little changes to get the headroom out of it. Well we stuck an acoustic guitar in there and it sounded wonderful, you know. It sounded really good.

He ended up using a whole bunch of other stuff because he ended up running through a bunch of EQs and he had three microphones on the guitar and stuff that I don't know what to do with. You've got to be, but it sounded really, really neat. What he wanted, he needed something that was, you know, rack mountable, and, you know, you could move it.

PATRICK OGLE: That's not something you -- That something you just [OVERLAPPING]

BILL WEBB: It was something you got to carry, you know. I just -- and it was interesting. I didn't think you could do that with a Fender circuit or a Fender amps or guitar amp, you know, so yeah I can understand what you're saying that when you change little thing or a couple of little things, and it would be suited for acoustic.