[CHRIS EUDY PLAYING PATRICK OGLE'S NEWLY REPAIRED HARMONY H165 ACOUSTIC GUITAR]

PATRICK OGLE: And since I'm taking a guitar maintenance and repair course...

CHRIS EUDY: Oh goodness.

PATRICK OGLE: And, like I said, I'm ruining guitars.

CHRIS EUDY: [LAUGHING]

PATRICK OGLE: It's been a while that I'm doing it, but actually that's kind of the point of it. You know, I see -- You know, people would come in and I see them and they have this guitar and I'm like, "Oh my God, I wouldn't touch that guitar.

CHRIS EUDY: [LAUGHING]

PATRICK OGLE: But one of the things is that the gentleman teaching the course is very big on -- He's not big on the adjustable necks.

CHRIS EUDY: Right.

PATRICK OGLE: And how do you feel about like having the adjustable necks versus like the necks that are just the steel reinforced or with the bar in them.

CHRIS EUDY: Well, I always have an opinion that on that kind of stuff that how well a guitar is built is everything. I could -- I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who would put a, you know, a neck in a guitar that didn't have an adjustable truss rod in it and it will sound terrible because they didn't do their job putting it together. I guess all things being equal, I don't think really think it makes that much difference. I can't tell you that I, you know, that a brand new top-of-the-line Larrivee doesn't sound as good as maybe an old Martin that doesn't have a truss rod in it, you know, especially if it's got bad neck angle and all those other elements. I really think that it’s personal preference if you want to be able to adjust the neck on your guitar over a period of years. I think the good of having an adjustable truss rod outweighs the bad of not having an adjustable truss rod, and that the sound difference is so negligible you'd have to be a dog to hear the difference.

PATRICK OGLE: In class, I pointed out, that's something we did a video where I said, you know, he gives you his opinion very strongly.

CHRIS EUDY: Absolutely.

PATRICK OGLE: But then he also gives you the other side.

CHRIS EUDY: Sure.

PATRICK OGLE: I mean he's not, he's not just --

CHRIS EUDY: He's a really great guy. We've done some mutual kind of stuff back and forth.

PATRICK OGLE: But I mean obviously I thought of that. I mean this is not like a Martin. This is not reinforced like one of those old Martin necks at all.

CHRIS EUDY: No.

PATRICK OGLE: Yeah, and so -- but, you know, it just came -- it brought to mind the subject. Now, these guitars, I mean have you worked on any of like this sort of Harmony before?

CHRIS EUDY: Oh sure.

PATRICK OGLE: And I mean is it always the same sort of problems you run into with these.

CHRIS EUDY: Yeah. Absolutely.

PATRICK OGLE: Pretty much all. So it's always you want to put the neck is an issue.

CHRIS EUDY: Coming out, coming out.

PATRICK OGLE: The tuners not working.

CHRIS EUDY: The tuners don't work, the bridges have a tendency to want to come off.

PATRICK OGLE: And this is one is bolted -- I don't think one is normal.

CHRIS EUDY: A lot of times, I -- You know, that's not normal. Someone bolted it on at some point, but that's the exact same problems that you have on a 35- or a 40-year-old Martin. It's the exact same problems. It's just that they're not as valuable so people will kind of go [OVERLAPPING]

PATRICK OGLE: Yeah, garbage, yeah.

CHRIS EUDY: [OVERLAPPING] Yeah, exactly.

PATRICK OGLE: Well, like I said, this one with shipping I think costs $160 and so this is all in. It's not going to be -- I mean you wouldn't be able to find something that sounded like this for the amount.

CHRIS EUDY: For what you [INDISCERNIBLE]. Yeah. Exactly.

PATRICK OGLE: And the wood's old. It's 40-year-old wood.

CHRIS EUDY: And typically, yeah I mean this repair work that we did to this guitar normally, you know, would have cost around $500, you know, probably including the tuners. So, when you think about it, 660 for a solid wood American-made guitar, and it's all solid, there's no lamination on this guitar at all, it's solid back, solid sides, solid top, you would have spent quite some money.

PATRICK OGLE: Yeah. Yeah.

CHRIS EUDY: Sound's great.

PATRICK OGLE: Well, I'm thrilled.

[CHRIS EUDY PLAYING PATRICK OGLE'S NEWLY REPAIRED HARMONY H165 ACOUSTIC GUITAR]